aphanon_meme ([personal profile] aphanon_meme) wrote2014-06-06 02:26 pm

part 353 whalers on the moon

We've been here over a year now! I can hardly believe it! Dreamwidth's been pretty good, I'd say, with almost no downtime to speak of and all that! Anyway... how is your spring going? Or I guess it's almost summer, isn't it? Hopefully it's been well! I've been catching up on work and new movies, all very exciting stuff, I'm sure.

Enjoy part 353!

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1amkeit: (Deredere)

/OOC.

[personal profile] 1amkeit 2014-06-27 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Germany's sexiest when he's a dirty, sweaty mechanic bent over the engine of someone's car and straining and flexing his muscles to repair it.

Or maybe just when he's awkward and adorably flustered.
wild_kuken: (Captain Bookworm at Your Service)

Re: ooc

[personal profile] wild_kuken 2014-06-27 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well it depends the scale we're talking about. If it's just the vocabulary then yes people gain and lose words and grammar bits all the time. Preussisch for example had lots of words with Lithuanian influence (including a different word for bier!!) that I could see Prussia dropping as soon as he permanently relocated to Berlin. And at least with learning Hochdeutsch the Germans are probably all bidialectal at the least.

But phonology is a lot harder. Like take for example a change that happening in the US at the moment, we call it the caught-cot merger. Are the words caught and cot pronounced the same for you? For me they're not, and for most people in NY/NJ and northern PA they're not. But for most Americans, at an increasing rate they are (I was always a guinea pig to explain this at Uni because I went to school in Mass lol). But the thing is I've lived in places with the merger more than without, I have full academic knowledge of it, and of the fact all Americans will probably have it eventually the way dialect change is going, and yet I can't pronounce them the same if I tried. They're just naturally different.

Now that is just one little change to one little word, but consider at the time of the American Revolution America and England would have sounded exactly the same. And in 2014 America likely speaks General American English and for simplicities sake we'll say England uses Received Pronunciation. That's a lot of changes going on, I mean RP English has ~7 more vowel sounds than we do!!

Codeswitching will almost assuredly occur to a degree but it's a matter of when. Neither of us speak General American English but America wouldn't need to codeswitch for us, but if he still sounded like he did at the Revolution he would have to to not sound 'foreign' and it's worse with England, after all Shakespeare is Modern English, the transition from that to what we speak today was slow but with nations' fucked up sense of time it could have been in the blink of an eye for them.

And the thing is, even if you take the approach that they just adopt every sound/vocab/grammar change they come across (ludicrous!!) and they're polydialectal, all languages even your native one need use to maintain, so it's very possible they can't understand their past selves at all!! (sidenote: Germany could, he's too young. But Teuton and HRE are likely incomprehensible) And oh god, Germania probably sounds like a mix of all of their dialects plus weird sounds and words they think they've heard before but don't understand of jesus he might as well be speaking chinese!
fellatiano: (Default)

/ooc

[personal profile] fellatiano 2014-06-27 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[I'm actually alive!]

Italy uses standard Italian for all official documents, but he still speaks Venetian and uses it for private writing - if he kept a diary, it'd be in Venetian (if nothing else, that'd make it harder for others to read). I think he's also retained a little bit of the Mediterranean trading pidgin from the medieval era, which I want to say is called Levantine but I'm pretty sure that's not right at all, and he's definitely kept some Latin but it all makes the Vatican wince a bit when he speaks it because the Latin he's kept doesn't involve consistent declensions and half of it is classical but the other half is ecclesiastical and it's all a mess.

Mun is trying in the general sense to learn Breton, but doesn't know any Celtic languages at all and all the instructional online material is in French.

Re: ITT: Languages

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
MAIS DE QUELLE COULEUR EST TA CHATTE ?

Re: When are the nations at their sexiest?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Lithuania is sexiest when he is a maid begging at mighty Russia's feet. Actually everybody is.
kingkongeriget: (we're not going to do anything stupid)

1/2

[personal profile] kingkongeriget 2014-06-27 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[......]


[......]


[......snort]
Edited 2014-06-27 22:16 (UTC)

Re: /ooc

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
yay hi mun!

i like your headcanon as always.

ooh what's breton like?
kingkongeriget: (personality goes a long way)

2/2

[personal profile] kingkongeriget 2014-06-27 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
[snorts again]


[and again]










[aw, fuck it. we all know where this is going anyway, might as well get it out there]


[DOUBLES THE FUCK OVER IN PEALS OF UGLY LAUGHTER, HOLY SHIT]


[JUST FOR THAT, NORWAY WINS WHATEVER HE WANTS]
kingkongeriget: (do they speak English in What?)

ooc

[personal profile] kingkongeriget 2014-06-27 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Denmark looks best getting the spit kicked out of him, of course.

Re: /OOC.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Is he sexier if it's a good car with simple repairs to do and everything goes smoothly or if it's a destroyed car and Italy's reckless driving and constant accidents are pissing him off? :D

Re: ITT: Languages

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh... er... .;a;

I only know "est" out of everything you said ;A;

Re: ooc

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
...Almost did the same thing twice, there.

I think he looks best when he's happy and smiling.

Re: ITT: Languages

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
rose
iceandheather: (Default)

Ooc

[personal profile] iceandheather 2014-06-27 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Norway looks even prettier when he's mad.

...Though the person thinking this probably isn't the one he's pissed at. Unless it's Denmark.

Re: When are the nations at their sexiest?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I was almost going to tell you to GB2B Belarus, but then I thought

nah, Belarus doesn't think anyone is sexy except for maybe Russia
1amkeit: (Deredere)

Re: /OOC.

[personal profile] 1amkeit 2014-06-27 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That depends on whether you prefer Germany to be in a relatively calm and relaxed mood or in an angry and frustrated mood.
kingkongeriget: (a "royale with cheese"!)

Re: ooc

[personal profile] kingkongeriget 2014-06-27 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Did I miss a juicy de-anon?


I bet he prefers that, too. ;D I'm just mean to him since he has such a knack for getting in trouble. (Mun's favorite favorite is half-awake Denmark, stubbly and grumbly in his PJs, clinging melodramatically to the coffee pot.)

Gb2b Russia

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)

Re: ITT: Languages

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack!
kingkongeriget: (I have to go powder my nose)

Re: Ooc

[personal profile] kingkongeriget 2014-06-27 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
And even then, it could just be Classical Conditioning!
fellatiano: (Default)

Re: /ooc

[personal profile] fellatiano 2014-06-27 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Breton is the only surviving Celtic language spoken outside the British Isles! It's spoken in Brittany in France, which is the sticky-out bit that's kind of parallel to Cornwall, and it's part of the Brythonic branch of Celtic language, along with Welsh and Cornish. It's only spoken in about half of Brittany (the west half) with much frequency, though; the other non-French language spoken on the peninsula is Gallo, which is even more endangered than Breton, and neither are recognized by the French government as regional languages because they won't acknowledge any language besides French as being officially spoken in France.

It's most similar to Cornish, but has for obvious reasons a lot of French influence, and it sounds...the best way to put it is kind of like French a bit? I'm horrible at describing sensory experiences in ways that make sense to anyone besides me, so listening to this should be some help (it's a story about a sacristan and an herb-seller, I'm not quite sure what's going on but I think they argue.)

Also crêpes and that stripy French shirt both originated in Brittany!
Edited (frANCE not frENCH) 2014-06-27 22:42 (UTC)

Re: ooc

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely not.

He's just so adorable no matter what situation he's in.

But would that be with his pajama bottoms clinging to his hips or while he's wearing snug PJs with a ridiculously goofy print?
wild_kuken: (Like What You See?)

ooc

[personal profile] wild_kuken 2014-06-27 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Dirty and sweaty and little bit bloody, probably off the battle field or mid-fight.

Alternatively if by some miracle you can get Prussia to shut up and behave, they're very sexy in formal wear!
fellatiano: (Default)

/ooc

[personal profile] fellatiano 2014-06-27 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Most likely when he's actually concentrating on something that he likes to do a lot.

Or, hell, asleep and naked and clinging to your arm in your bed which he has mysteriously appeared in yet again.

I just know it's definitely not when he actively tries to be. Then, he's just sort of silly and cute, maybe kind of sweet, but definitely not sexy in the classical way of thinking about it.
kingkongeriget: (we should have fucking shotguns.)

Re: ooc

[personal profile] kingkongeriget 2014-06-27 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Both.


Goofy printed pajamas clinging to his hips so if he goes to scratch his stomach under his shirt there's just a itty bitty peek of hip and a cute little treasure trail.

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