aphanon_meme ([personal profile] aphanon_meme) wrote2009-05-19 11:58 pm

Part 11 comes after Part 10

Part 10 is over! Part 11 is here. If you haven't checked the challenge entry, the challenge has been extended until Part 11 maxes. Hopefully that is enough time for people who are busy with finals and such to find time to enter, if they'd like to!

Should I mention that the number 11 scares me? I really don't like that number. Like how Natalie Portman hated the number 5 (or 6?) in Where the Heart Is. But a higher number. Well, anyway.

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(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does right-wing America hate France so damn much?

I mean, France helped them during the Revolutionary War and all. What are they so butthurt about?

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's why
http://www.everyoneweb.com/worldpenissize/

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm... I dunno. I never really understood those right wingers.
Then again, there aren't really that many where I live...

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I live in a city of 200,000 of these people, and I still don't get them.

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Because according to right-wing America, all of Europe, including France, is "EVUL SOCIALIST FASCISTS!!1!one!"

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, OMG YROPEANS R LAZY UNLIKE US HARD-WORKING AMERICANS

AND IN EUROPE PEOPLE PROTEST AND SOMETIMES RIOT. CLEARLY ITS BECAUSE THEY'RE SAVAGES.

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically, yeah.

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I certainly can't speak for right-wing America, but I can tell you that most of America is 'tsundere' for France. Despite the verbal insults/outrage, we secretly (or maybe not so secretly, am not sure) fawn over France and anything French. Hey, we do love that Statue of Liberty. One of the greatest symbols of our country is French. Media can skew anything whichever way they want, but occasional butthurt does happen. With that said, I'll have to say that I still can't speak for all of America and that this comment might not even have anything to do with your question. Oh, well.

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Francophobia is sort of a mainstay in modern American culture regardless of political affiliation. Same reason that anti-American sentiments exist in France. It doesn't mean that French people hate all Americans or vice-versa. Only the truly stupid buy into that kind of thing.

Extreme right-wing sentiments of any kind are always played up by the media to stir up the sensibilities of normal people. You're not going to see any TV interviews with insane conservatives that include rants about how great the French or other foreigners are. Controversy sells.


Also:

Tom Brokaw: Senator Kerry, what about the French? Are they friends? Are they enemies? Or something in-between at this point?
Kerry: The French are the French.
Tom Brokaw: Very profound, senator.
Kerry: Well, trust me, it has a meaning. And I think most people know exactly what I mean.

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
*facepalm*

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/08/obama-mustard-attack-beco_n_199953.html

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090507/world/obama_dijon_attack

Well... (recaptcha: thine been)

(Anonymous) 2009-05-24 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
They openly opposed against the "War on Terror", which resulted a lot of butthurt from the American right-wingers. Before that, there was some animosity but it wasn't really that serious.

[identity profile] ono-tachibana.livejournal.com 2009-05-24 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard it was because of the Iraq war, no? Or it was long before? (I don't know very much, sorry, but I'm curious to know)

[identity profile] tristiaa.livejournal.com 2009-05-24 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Désolée si je donne l'impression de te suivre à la trace ^^; c'est juste à titre informatif

From wikipedia

Postwar years
"The Suez Crisis had a profound impact both on the UK (which subsequently aligned its foreign policy to that of the U.S.) and on France (which began to consider that the U.S. could not be counted upon as a reliable ally)."

"[de Gaulle] clashed with the U.S. over France's building of its own nuclear weapons (see: Force de frappe) and Britain's admission into the European Economic Community. These and other tensions led to de Gaulle's decision in 1966 to withdraw French forces from the integrated military structure of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) and to expel NATO from its headquarters at Fontainebleau. De Gaulle's foreign policy was centered on an attempt to limit the power and influence of both superpowers"

"France, more strongly than any other nation, has seen the European Union as a method of counter-balancing American power"


Personnaly I think the NATO departure in 1966 was determinent to the "hostility" between the two nations.(and what about de Gaulle trip to Moscow in the same year?)
For the Irak war we were not the only one to oppose it but contrary to Germany France is a permanent member of the security counsil (with the power to veto).
And I think that americans kinda like the germans, probably because of that heritage thing.

Quand de Gaulle a exigé le retrait des forces américaines du territoire français, un dirigeant américain aurait demandé si ça incluait les hommes enterrés dans les cimetières en Normandie.(eh oui, ils étaient vraiment furieux)


It's why a US/Canada/UK/France happy family don't make sense. (I honestly don't understand it)