aphanon_meme | part 340 tender lumplings everywhere

The best season is coming, meme! Halloween season! I mean... fall! Yeah, fall. I love the fall. I actually like every season in its own way, but I think fall has the best atmosphere. Crunching leaves and pumpkins and excuses to decorate the outside of your house with fake spider webs and zombie hands. Also it means... Hetalia Halloween fanart! (Maybe even... something from Himaruya? Maybe? Bueller? No?)

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They would get in HUGE trouble for being obvious activists for something that's a huge controversy in their nation. I don't think they'd do it.

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I don't think it's that simple, really. American Revolution was controversial in America before the war (and during it, depending on where you were). Russia and Bloody Sunday. Etc. I think they do whatever they feel is in the best interest of their nation at the time, whether it happens to be going along with events or taking part in a controversial tide.

That's different from being in the country in the height of slavery and screaming about wanting them free when most of your people (that have any rights) still don't agree. The American Revolution was controversial but eventually decided upon as the only solution, Russia could be seen as trying to go with what his leaders wanted.

I just can't see them being supercharged and very open equality activists.

The American Revolution was controversial but eventually decided upon as the only solution

Tell that to the people who refused to fight and/or fled the country (or were forced to) because they did not approve of the revolution but could not deal with the pressure of armed colonists attacking them/their families

The majority or a huge amount of people agreeing is enough that the nation probably wouldn't get in huge trouble. It's not the same as being a very extremely open anti-slavery activist when most of your people don't agree with it including your leaders.

what is the civil war for 200, alex

I'm talking even before Civil War era. I saw fics where America was being an open, very loud anti-slavery activist at a time when it was much less of a split issue.

I don't see why not, though, because those were controversial actions at the time. You don't have to be SHOUTING UP AND SCREAMING ABOUT FREEING SLAVES to be an anti-slavery activist.

I know. I'm not saying they didn't support equality. I'm saying I don't see them as going around screaming that opinion.

"The American Revolution was controversial but eventually decided upon as the only solution"

The victors write the history, or however that saying goes.

okay.

As the reluctant and "only" solution by a vast number of the people is what I meant. Enough that America acting in the Revolution wouldn't be incredibly side-eyed. I'm aware of the controversy of the Revolution and those who were basically chased off when they didn't agree.

I think it's hard to determine a "vast" number of people. It wouldn't be controversial by the popular culture, retrospective American image of the revolution, no. That's because it's typically taught with that "victor writes the history" paint brush of "Yeah, everyone cept some loyalists w/e Benedict Arnold! were amped up for the American Revolution!" But by contemporary times, I think it would be controversial for the representative of America to say: Yes. We are fighting this revolution. I am rebelling. because at the time, it was not as "universal" as we view it today.

But when his country goes to war and many, many people agree and fight, why would America not fight? It's not the same as a Civil War, it's his people against others. With so many people in support of the revolution, including the "leaders" of the time, it's not the same to compare America fighting in the war to him being an extremely open anti-slavery activist in a time when most of his people would think he was crazy.

Yes, what I'm saying is that it was "universal" enough at the time that it's not a good comparison to make with that sort of activism in the same era.

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