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part 367 bears and wolves oh my
YOU DID IT, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. Well, it's been a year. I hope it was a good one for you--and that 2018 is even better! And maybe we'll finally get that fansub of even one of the musicals... just maybe.
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(Anonymous) 2018-04-15 07:45 am (UTC)(link)whenever there's tl;dr Titanic supplementation to be found, lillian is there!!
The production also kept Bruce Ismay on the bottom, trapped figuratively with the dead, which I thought was a very interesting choice. It fell in line with their reworking the "In Every Age" number in the beginning and its reprise in the finale to be sung by Ismay, haunted by the disaster.
(asd;fds; YEP for sure, another one of our coincidences?)
Oh gosh, what an amazing introduction. The man who plays Barrett--the "Merry me when I return, Darlene..." guy--even kept the original "Darlene" photograph from the Broadway run and used it in the reunion concert. He "talks" to it a few times throughout the show, notably when he boards the ship ("Fare-thee-well my darling, I'll be back before a fortnight has passed") and then in We'll Meet Tomorrow ("I'll hold thee closely as I say goodbye, and keep your image in my memory's eye") .
There's some press reels for the original Broadway production too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORrRCkBj1iw&list=PLDD60B8650482EF7D
ugh I'm getting goosebumps from Godspeed Titanic, HELP LOTTE
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(Anonymous) 2018-04-15 08:32 am (UTC)(link)that is chilling and quite appropriate, i feel. the set choices in these differ so much from production to production and it's these kind of things that really give the lasting impression when you go to think back on it.
(i...know it isn't a coincidence this time; i'd marked you for a lover of theater besides lillian's ballet background for days now, just a feeling...or lingerings of lotte's detectiving nature <;)
i'm sorry tldr; a;d; you've got me titanic the musical rambling
(Anonymous) 2018-04-15 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)Found a picture of them on stage: h wait, found a picture: http://static.playbill.com/dims4/default/13c367e/2147483647/crop/3000x1689%2B0%2B148/resize/970x546/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.playbill.com%2Fef%2F54%2F28047c3a411fa11cfe6047164f97%2Ftitanic-the-musical-2013-cast.%20Photo%20by%20Scott%20Rylander%20-%20022.jpg
Oh gosh I could ramble forever about the details from this production. After the sinking, they had this quiet eerie moment where all of the victims crossed the stage and added something to the debris pile, meant to mimic the debris on the bottom of the ocean. A pair of glasses, a handkerchief, a pocket watch... it gave me shivers.
Found an image of the finale, you can see Ismay (bottom stage, bald, with his head turned to the side) in it: https://i.imgur.com/oFoybKQ.jpg
(still, spooooky! What made you think so?
what shows do you like?)1
(Anonymous) 2018-04-16 02:02 am (UTC)(link)i only got halfway through the musical by the time i had to pass out; i left off where it's following the three different pairs at once on deck (the straus couple, katie and her new beau, the busybody's husband and the steward(?)
(okay, not to be weird about it, but i just got the sense you're who i've talked to about musicals on the meme before, and mayyybe even watched one with? who maybe made a post about it on another place a little afterwards and mentioned about a musical cue in the comments, which i also had talked about with this memer just before, so it stuck out to me? i only know 'cause i've been following that site day-to-day for years and obviously i eyezoomed in on a musical post when i happened to see it in the day's entries. sorry if i'm wrong and sorrier if i'm right 'cause it's awkward to explain it D;)
i would've been sobbing to see that, too! i remember trying to recover in time for the end of the show when I first saw Les Miserables; i first broke down when they were remembering the dead and then i just struggled to hold it in till the very end. and my face must've been blotchy because my friends made a big deal about me probably needing a hug and i was like SHHH DON'T YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CRY MORE
i wonder when it'll get me when i get back to watching this musical, ugh. i was a mess when i first watched A Night to Remember, too.
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(Anonymous) 2018-04-16 04:43 am (UTC)(link)I watched the
second half ofthe 1997 film today and at the end of the Nearer My God to Thee sequence, when they're trying to launch those last collapsible and the water rushes up on everyone... I got shivers, I realized that is where we "were" right before we fled to the smoking room.Let me know your thoughts when you've finished it!! I'd love to hear them!
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(Anonymous) 2018-04-16 11:25 am (UTC)(link)...
well, now she's among them, anyway.
COUGHS UGH
(yeah, it was anastasia! and i was the one afterward who talked about the "life is a journey" musical cue later, and i saw you mention it on ontd i thought, or i got a funny feeling you must've been the one i talked to on here to, because i hadn't seen anyone else noticing it, it being such an easy thing to miss. i was trying to keep ambiguous where i thought i might've seen you in case you didn't want to talk of anything cross the meme, you know. and then last night you shared an ahs song to me and i remembered seeing your icon in past ahs posts, so i thought it more likely to be you even last night.
did that sampling of "life is a journey" make it into the version as it is now? i know so much was changed, i've kinda been afraid to ask, haha, it meant something to me that i noticed it because it was like that birdsong that you happen to catch on your way to work knowing everyone else was too busy to hearken to it, so in a way it was meant for you)
ofc. i had to go look it up and watch it after reading this. were you able to bear it when the site autoplayed that video or did you turn it off?
i wasn't even thinking in the turmoil of it all about how those collapsibles weren't actually an option, thinking "oh yeah, there's still more (which is what they must've been feeling in their head even as things progressed with increasing speed), i'm looking at the map" and then i got that PM of yours with a fatal tone if ever one could be read through text, "no, they didn't have time to launch, this is our last hope."
of course they also didn't have the option of flitting about from one promenade to the other, but us seeing the decks fill up with hopefuls in their respective sections on the map, then watching them get abandoned in a wash just as they'd been filled, still thinking maybe there was a chance but losing hope with each lifeboat and looking to see there were still hundreds of us altogether vying...
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(Anonymous) 2018-04-16 11:31 am (UTC)(link)i have to say knowing the added experience you got in your one viewing kind of made me feel like i was lacking the whole of what i could've got, you know? but then i think about how there would've also been people in your audience who saw it as their first time experience and maybe went to go to another one, only to realize just how special that production was the first go-around. or the people who'd maybe gone to see the show a couple times before elsewhere, who had this surprising treat out of it. that's pretty cool!
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oh the foreshadowing comments all throughout this...mrs straus: "i'd rather freeze" when talking casually about being without her husband and captain smith's prospects of retirement but wanting to be at the helm of such a groundbreaking voyage; his little quip of "at least i won't be around to see it" when talking of changes in the way things are done, little knowing...
NO MOON NO WIND D: callback to the little moment of eerie ominess in the lookout's song belying the seeming calmness of the sea then..amongst all the fanciful enjoyments of the rich on board...the creeping of the chant, the foreboding in the undercurrent, building and building...
the plodding of time for the upper class passengers thinking they're being interrupted rudely for a silly drill, the circling of them just as the stewards circle questions and everyone's thoughts are circling the same persistent delusion of "all will be well"...EVEN STILL after the cart goes rolling past to show them they're at tilt now!
NOOO not them telling all they must get in the lifeboats to the same tune that was their stepping foot on the boat in happiness in the first place...
OH NO barett's chance at safety getting snatched from him just as it was being granted! and still being so good as to shake the hand of the man chosen to take his chance at life away
THESE UPPERCRUST MEN talking like it's just another night at their fancy dinner table, it's so macabre
OMG not edgar finally doing what his wife always wanted and greeting the elite just as he's about to die, that quote you shared about the stauses meaning nothing
noooo the captain getting choked up with this youth who not only shared the same work as he did as a child, but also shares his name and never got to make it as far in life as him
"he wanted a legend and by God, he's got one" ismay...fuck...how his words will keep coming back to haunt him
noo not murdoc having to feel self-hatred before his end
andrews's crazed building improvements in aftersight, oh it's a good touch to be showing us the fates as andrews is in the past foreseeing what's already happening in the audience's eyes, AHHH THERE'S YOUR EXACT LYRIC ABOUT THE CLASSES
and now the same song that extolled titanic's wonders is the same one told in horror at how such a wonder could've ended this way, FUCK the floating city of the boat became an actual heaven and the send-off wishing them a good journey to heaven mirroring the send-off of the boat to those who had no idea it'd be a mortal journey; obviously you'd shared this one beforehand to me, too
me at the first hour mark yesterday: i'm sure it won't upset me too much
me at the end of the second hour today: *resting forehead against my hand* welp
NOT OPTIONAL AT ALL
(Anonymous) 2018-04-17 08:15 am (UTC)(link)I think it's a case of that first show always being 'special.' Though it doesn't help that this version got the go-ahead to rework the show in some noticable ways, such as framing the show around Ismay, which no other licensed version does. So it's impossible to recapture unless it's the same production. Which is incidentally touring the UK right now ("Thom Southerland" version) but since they originally had plans for a US tour and scrapped them, prrrobably won't come here. Bootleg, someone? ... Anyone? In fact many of the cast from the version I saw are returning for the tour, including Ismay. Get on it people!
ANYWHO
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They had lots of foreshadowing didn't they! I think the hardest for me is right in the beginning. "Get me aboard, call out my name, it's to America we aim, to find a better life we prayed to make this trip. Let all our children's children know tha this day long ago we dreamt of them and came board this ship!" just... ouch.
The mixture of all the different elements (no moon no wind, the rich, etc) is so, so effective. I especially love Barrett/the stoker's undercurrent.
.EVEN STILL after the cart goes rolling past to show them they're at tilt now!
I hate to compare with the version I saw, but I will: in my version they watched the cart roll, then in the next beat when the music starts slowly up again, everyone started putting on their lifebelts and letting the usher help them. I liked it better that they added a bit of panic in there. ;;; and it reminded me of, I think it was Miss Dagliesh, in the 2nd class smoking room watching her pencil start to roll on the desk.
NOOO not them telling all they must get in the lifeboats to the same tune that was their stepping foot on the boat in happiness in the first place...
I HAVE NEVER PROPERLY NOTICED THIS BEFORE. Something I love about this score is how rich it is!! You can listen to it again and again and find new elements, as you did!
THESE UPPERCRUST MEN talking like it's just another night at their fancy dinner table, it's so macabre
There was originally supposed to be a song here, called Behind Every Fortune, but it was cut. The director apparently thought it was the best song written for the score. Sadly no demos/recordings or even lyrics to be found... :(
noo not murdoc having to feel self-hatred before his end
Did they have Murdoch commit suicide in this version?
me at the first hour mark yesterday: i'm sure it won't upset me too much
me at the end of the second hour today: *resting forehead against my hand* welp
THAT'S IT. THAT'S TITANIC THE MUSICAL IN A NUTSHELL. You think it won't--but it will. Oh it will. I'm really glad you found it and enjoyed it, sad as it is, though! IMO it's one of the most underappreciated Broadway shows by people interested in theater.
Are you interested in foreign language musicals at all? The German version is beautiful to listen to. I'm not sure if other versions have cast recordings. I hope they make one for the Korean production, though there's a bunch of videos on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thIKBj1XWcI
O-OH and there is this pretty rendition from a cabaret that I like: https://youtu.be/L4EWK4axQkk?t=37
If I ever manage to get ahold of the pro-shot of this version from the early or mid 00s, a $750,000-budget version built with a 3-story set design built by NBC studios... we should watch! So far everyone I've found with it on their list is inactive. :(
Re: NOT OPTIONAL AT ALL
(Anonymous) 2018-04-18 03:03 am (UTC)(link)I HAVE NEVER PROPERLY NOTICED THIS BEFORE.
oooh, so there was some good to my ramblings after all! damn, self, back at it again with the musical cues.
that's a shame that there's nothing left of Behind Every Fortune. even if stuff gets deleted, it deserves something for posterity, at least. people put a lot into making everything for something to just be lost time :(
Did they have Murdoch commit suicide in this version?
whhhaat, no! D: how did they depict that in what you saw?
yeah, i'd be interested in foreign musicals as well as movies! i saw vids from the korean version in the recommended one. they have a lot of cute gestures in the one you shared. i like that bride insists barrett take a seat to give him an idea of the wonder of the job he gets to do. i started watching the other ones i could find after this. i'll have to remember to look up the german versions!
AND YEAH it goes without saying that you should definitely say something if you find those someday! i hope it'll be possible!
Re: NOT OPTIONAL AT ALL
(Anonymous) 2018-04-18 03:58 am (UTC)(link)OKAY GOOD, I actually had this big write-up about how they framed it around Ismay, but I removed it since I thought it might be annoying to include, I''ll put it at the bottom of this comment though.
that's a shame that there's nothing left of Behind Every Fortune. even if stuff gets deleted, it deserves something for posterity, at least. people put a lot into making everything for something to just be lost time :(
I wonder if the behind the scenes book about the musical has any info about lyrics and such... I just put it on hold from a library network, we'll see when it arrives! Apparently the reason why it was cut was because they had the song between the Strauses right after, and having two emotional, intimate songs back to back messed up the flow.
whhhaat, no! D: how did they depict that in what you saw?
So they had him singing that reprise about being a captain, center-stage, and as he's singing the last "You hold our souls in the palm of your hand" the lights around him dimmed so he was the focus. Then right as he finished the song, he pulled out a pistol and then shot himself in the head, falling down and the stage went black. I was stunned. I don't know how I feel about it in the sense that I know that Murdoch's family was really bothered by James Cameron choosing to have Murdoch murder a man and kill himself, but, in terms of a stage moment... it was intense.
yeah, i'd be interested in foreign musicals as well as movies!
I WILL THROW SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AT YOU SHORTLY THEN
I found someone who is willing to sell their videos for a reasonable price... now here's hoping they respond!
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OKAY SO... the version I saw reframed the show around Bruce Ismay in a pretty significant way. Oh no this is so long I'm sorry.
Before the show starts, while people are still being seated, there's Thomas Andrews sitting at his deck. Quietly writing, measuring, making his plans.
I may have grabbed my friend's hand and frantically whispered 'It's Thomas Andrews, it's Thomas Andrews!' ove rand over at this pointThen the orchestra starts up, Andrews stands and...... leaves the stage! It's Bruce Ismay who enters, running, frantic, from a crowd of Titanic survivors and reporters who follow him. "Why did you save yourself when there were still passengers aboard?" "My husband!" "My son!" and so on. He nearly collapses, and begins to sing the opening number in a defeated away: "In every age mankind attempts to fabricate great works..."
About halfway through the song, they added some new orchestrations, which were a cue for captain Smith and the crew to enter. Ismay is horrified--the ghosts, the ghosts! And he backs away... then when he turns around, he has his proper hat on, and he too has been transported to the past. He continues and finishes the song in a boastful manner.
I'm not sure if they added any elements within the show aside from the beginning, I'm not 100% familiar with the traditional book, I'll have to watch this Australian version soon.
In the end, though. The Carpathia sequence where they're recounting what happened had the actors backed by a list of all those who died on Titanic, and after the "softly sleep..." bit, the cast except for Ismay exited the stage and the survivor list was lifted into the rafters. Ismay starts the "in every age mankind attempts" reprise all alone, absolutely shattered--angry, despairing, bitter, afraid, just this beautiful mix of emotions. The survivor's then reappeared on the top level, sans Carpathia wraps, and joined in at the second "Floating city!" bit.
Then the finale continued as I mentioned before, with the victims coming out. And Ismay, among them, the only survivor not able to ascend to the top level... trapped, forever, with those who died.
Re: NOT OPTIONAL AT ALL
(Anonymous) 2018-04-19 01:26 am (UTC)(link)re: murdoc's death, oof. in both of the versions i saw, his last words and departure really carried with it a sense that he was maybe going to take his own life, just leaving it up to interpretation. although i understand the confliction with the moment taking liberties, and understand why his family wouldn't want it depicted that he possibly committed suicide, i also don't think it's something people should've been concerned with seeming shameful in that moment, if it did happen to him or any officer (and lightoller did eventually admit say one of them had committed suicide in that moment.) certainly not comparable to how he was besmirched in the 1997 version.
About halfway through the song, they added some new orchestrations, which were a cue for captain Smith and the crew to enter. Ismay is horrified--the ghosts, the ghosts! And he backs away... then when he turns around, he has his proper hat on, and he too has been transported to the past. He continues and finishes the song in a boastful manner.
aw mannn well done on the melding of fast forward to flashback.
this is probably also the only portrayal of ismay in titanic works that i've heard of, too? everything rests on his selfishness but not how it affected him later. by all accounts, it really fucked him up. it's good there was something out there that didn't just want to present him as a villain like everyone wants to see and rest on that.
it reminds me of how workers at the titanic museum reported that his portrait once started shaking on the wall and flew off, landing facedown. everyone likes to say it's because those who died and the other survivors wouldn't have wanted anything to do with him after that, but i felt like if anything, it'd be due to himself and his own guilt
I WILL THROW SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AT YOU SHORTLY THEN
yay! and yeah definitely if you ever get a hold of that titanic stuff, lemme know.
re: behind every fortune & some more tidbits
(Anonymous) 2018-04-20 02:57 am (UTC)(link)Which other version did you watch? I finally watched the Australian version, I enjoyed it! What an interesting touch with the portholes, especially with Ismay not being there, ahh it sounds like a great visual.
Re: Murdoch. I feel like it would have been just as unsettling if they had him take the pistol out but left it up to us... although you're right, it's not anywhere near as bad as what Cameron did in the '97 film movie.
this is probably also the only portrayal of ismay in titanic works that i've heard of, too? everything rests on his selfishness but not how it affected him later. by all accounts, it really fucked him up. it's good there was something out there that didn't just want to present him as a villain like everyone wants to see and rest on that.
I think so too. And even though the book of the show takes some liberties with Ismay's interaction with Smith, the fact that they focused on how it broke him was memorable. And oh, I've never heard about that incident at the museum... I agree with your interpretation fully. I've actually never found any accounts from passengers who were pissed at Ismay for surviving. It seems mostly to be the press. I could be wrong or just missed some accounts, though.
OKAY SO, the behind the scenes book about the Titanic musical came in and I found the passage about Behind Every Fortune. Turns out it wasn't an emotional song but a rather biting one!
"We had, the day before, made another one of the four major preview changes in the show, this one the deletion of one of the strongest songs Maury had written. Late in Act TWo, on the severely slanting Main Deck, four millionaires--Astor, Guggenheim, Thayer, and Widener--were discovered standing at the rail, dressed in their finest evening clothes, each with a silver flask of brandy, stoically awaiting death. In a short scene which had them searching for justice in their hopeless situation, Guggenheim recalled a passage from Balzac novel: "Behind every fortune lies a great crime."
Months before, when Maury and I were discussing song ideas, I had given him this quote and it inspired him to write a song ("Behind Every Fortune") which had the millionaires, about to die, confessing their crimes. our director thought it was the finest song in the score and yet, he saw when played before an audience, that it was an intellectual lyric coming at a time when an emotional one was needed. And, since the highly emotional duet song by the elderly Strauses ("Still") came immediately after, the millionaires song not only set the wrong tone, but lessened the the impact of the subsequent moment. To everyone's sorrow, the brilliant but unwelcome millionaire's song was cut. "
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Another interesting bit from the book... up until 2 weeks before it opened on Broadway previews, the ending involved Robert Ballard. Whaaat.
"I had earlier written a scene that presented some 16 survivors, following their rescue by the steamer Carpathia, appearing in a line, on a bare stage, in front of a black curtain, expressing, one by one, their memories and innermost feelings followed by the sinking, speaking as much to the audience as to each other. Then, appearing at the end of the line, dressed in a modern, bright, anachronistic orange jumpsuit, a contemporary character would enter: Robert D. Ballard, a scientist from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution who, on September 1, 1985 ... had been the first human being in 73 years to cast eyes on R.M.S Titanic.
After describing his remarkable discovery, the curtain would rise on the vent itself--a tableau of Ballard's submersible, in miniature of course, descending to the wreck of the great ship on the ocean's bottom. As stated earlier, this effect had turned out to be unsuccessful. But even if it had worked to our satisfaction, the moment itself was too dark, too impersonal and most of all, too thematically inconclusive to serve as our ending."
Now that would have been strange!
and some recs!
(Anonymous) 2018-04-20 03:11 am (UTC)(link)Rudolf: Affaire Mayerling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoAln45mjgo&list=PLwM59-io0-BCoBtoJfT_TzTmapE7JpTRl
The Count of Monte Cristo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_IQRRZmZlI [Rest should pop up in the sidebar]
it's kind of like the 2002 movie and has a happy ending but I do love the musicAhhHh most of the stuff I like isn't on Youtube anymore because of getting taken down for copyright. But if you haven't already watched it, the DVD of Elisabeth: das musical is great too!
FOUND THE EXPENSIVE PROSHOT... WELL WILL HAVE IT SOON
(Anonymous) 2018-04-21 01:03 am (UTC)(link)From a contemporary review about the set
The design makes it appear that Titanic's riveted steel skin is being peeled away, whole or in sections, to reveal its compartmentalized interior. Soaring two and three levels high, the settings codify the ship's rigid class structure, with first-class passengers on upper decks and in large, grandly decorated spaces, while third-class passengers are relegated to the stage floor in smaller, more sparely appointed areas.
Some of the painstakingly detailed sets are used for just a few minutes, never to be seen again. These include a two-story-high, hungry-mouthed boiler as well as a re-creation of the Grand Salon, with its rich, wood-paneled walls and sweeping staircase, capped by a glass dome.
life is a road
(Anonymous) 2018-04-17 07:31 am (UTC)(link)NOPE, had to turn it off.
i wasn't even thinking in the turmoil of it all about how those collapsible weren't actually an option
I forgot about it in the chaos as well, up until all the regular boats were gone, so I looked up quickly which collapsible was launched first and I saw the only 2 listed and it came back to me. With that water creeping up, we probably made it out of there just in time.
seeing the decks fill up with hopefuls in their respective sections on the map, then watching them get abandoned in a wash just as they'd been filled, still thinking maybe there was a chance but losing hope with each lifeboat and looking to see there were still hundreds of us altogether vying...
Yes, exactly, exactly. It was just... ugh, hard. Especially when I started noticing the same names again and again, realizing people just weren't making it into the boats.
and like I said in a comment above, mmmnn a little frustrating that Simba the Lion gets into a lifeboat but other people died. And remember when some people started coming into the smoking room at the end?You know, I wonder--since Collapsible B ended up overturned in the water, and a few people made it into Collapsible A which got washed away from the ship, did they have that option in the "North Atlantic" part? It doesn't sound like it, but... And I wonder if anyone was rescued from the water by the boats. I vaguely remember someone in the heaven chats mentioning that they didn't want to have to beg people to pick them up? I might be misremembering though.
and i wanna keep going
(Anonymous) 2018-04-18 03:16 am (UTC)(link)i wonder if everyone with us who hadn't already left got killed that way, will it say a bunch died on the promenade? D; i wish i'd checked the map again, but there was so little time in between then and when we died in the smoking room and i didn't want to take time from our girls' last moments.
and i wanted to say something equal to the guy who wished us well in the end but i felt at such a loss as to what to say--what's the right thing to say when you're dying together as strangers? man...
that reminds me, i saw this on the main facebook page with asking for feedback:
Lifeboat Overhaul: We know you all hate breaking up your roleplay to endlessly click on lifeboats during the sinking in the hopes of being saved. We hate it, too! We know something better is needed, and it's definitely something on our radar.
i wonder what they would do to effectively change that?
i feel like there should be some percentage weighted against luck to get into the lifeboat, based on activity in roleplaying. those joke accounts never interacted with anybody. anyone who's not really using their account should be exempt from being saved in the lifeboats, at least.
and we guessed that maybe some of the lifeboats that already had some in them before being allowed to, were reserved seats for historical figures who needed to make it. i wonder if those spots still count or not? and the admins who make it in? in that case, it'd be taking up room from all the regular players, which i also don't think is right. if they decide they want to live, they should have a reservation system in place that gives others a chance of a seat. i saw daniel hobi on the carpathia talking about how he just got lucky this year in getting on a lifeboat, so it's not necessary for admins to live to continue overseeing things.
i want to say people would've had the chance to get into those collapsibles once in the water, because in the status on the top when it'd say what happened to the lifeboat, i saw it say something once like "people will have to jump into the water if they want a hope of making it into this lifeboat." and i think people should be able to get in a boat once in the atlantic, too. danny, the bellboy, said in Heaven that his character swam up to a boat but nobody would let him in when he asked.
i wonder if that's why will smith lived, because people chose to help him over others (in the living chat, his name still had (north atlantic) next to it when i saw him say "am i dreamin'?"). i was wondering if maybe that's how chase made it, too, but i haven't caught up on everything.
Re: and i wanna keep going
(Anonymous) 2018-04-18 04:18 am (UTC)(link)i wonder if everyone with us who hadn't already left got killed that way, will it say a bunch died on the promenade
Looks like 10 people died there. Not too many, at least. Also I checked Chase's log, he got onto Lifeboat no. 11.
and i wanted to say something equal to the guy who wished us well in the end but i felt at such a loss as to what to say--what's the right thing to say when you're dying together as strangers? man...
same! I felt bad when he left, perhaps he didn't want to intrude. I hope he didn't die by surprise by going somewhere else.
Re: the lifeboats
i've been thinking about that too. I agree about the need for some kind of percentage. I was originally thinking that they should take gender into account like the real ship, but I think what would happen is people wouldn't want to play male characters because of the great likelhood that they wouldn't survive. Your idea seems pretty sound IMO. Maybe something like each day you participate it ups the likelihood?
I wonder if maybe they should try an honor system for oke characters--like "if you have a joke account, please do not take a space on a lifeboat." Like I said, it's kind of hrrrrmmmm to see Simba live and people who spent time playing a genuine character die.
I saw someone mention on the other FB group that a possible lifeboat change would be the "board lifeboat" button showing up on the picture screen, so that you don't have to click the deck plans. That would be easier for people at least.
danny, the bellboy, said in Heaven that his character swam up to a boat but nobody would let him in when he asked.
I wonder why. Maybe the boats can only pick up so many people, so people save it for characters they were friends with? Or maybe there is a risk of overturning if you pick up people? I wish we had videos of what it was like on the lifeboats, I'm curious to see how it all works.
also!
(Anonymous) 2018-04-18 04:20 am (UTC)(link)(yeah, it was anastasia! and i was the one afterward who talked about the "life is a journey" musical cue later, and i saw you mention it on ontd i thought, or i got a funny feeling you must've been the one i talked to on here to, because i hadn't seen anyone else noticing it, it being such an easy thing to miss. i was trying to keep ambiguous where i thought i might've seen you in case you didn't want to talk of anything cross the meme, you know. and then last night you shared an ahs song to me and i remembered seeing your icon in past ahs posts, so i thought it more likely to be you even last night.
(I wonder if I've read your comments!! Have we talked on ONTD before? :OOOO)
maybe
(Anonymous) 2018-04-19 01:30 am (UTC)(link)lul no jk, i've just read and lurked for years. several times i thought of applying but then i figured i'd have to have entries public since they seem to base criteria partially on that, and i've never wanted to bother. it's been hard though sometimes because then i'll be reading comments and be like nnnn at people without being able to actually say anything, but i figure that also keeps me out of trouble hahadunnn
(Anonymous) 2018-04-20 03:39 am (UTC)(link)IDK how strictly they go by that anymore, since they did just change up the mod team. ;jads;; WELL there have been a few times I've been like no...... nope I won't add any cents to this conversation and stay out of trouble so I get you!!