aphanon_meme ([personal profile] aphanon_meme) wrote2013-08-02 08:21 pm

part 337 christmas in july miracles

Meme! I almost thought I would never get to make a new post and say "Meme!! He updated! He really really updated! (which I'm sure most people in the fandom know by now!) In case you missed it JUST LOOK AT THIS. My goodness. A true, real Christmas In July miracle. ...... Wait it's August.

I feel silly now.

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wild_kuken: (RABBLE RABBLE)

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[personal profile] wild_kuken 2013-08-12 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh shove it, brother fucker. That has nothing to do with this and don't try to make it out to be.

[If you wanna be mean about shit that doesn't matter so can she.]

You were accusing me of not parenting because I don't break up their fights! Of course I'm gonna tell you I don't care about that!! And telling you something, as a conversation between two adults, is not the same as telling it to his face! A kid doesn't have to cry to be upset about something, and clearly he took it to mean something if he throws it in my face when I'm trying to talk to him!!

[She wants to rescue her teddy bear but she's a little distracted by HOW CLUELESS YOU ARE.]

I don't wiggle away from responsibility!! I'm not the one who fucking cried when West asked me to take in little me, you fucking hypocrite!! And did it ever occur to you there's a reason I'm distant with her, or let her stay with you in the first place!? No of course not, because you're a self-centered jack ass who doesn't even realize what you mean to her.
dererste: (PAIN IN MY ASS!!)

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[personal profile] dererste 2013-08-12 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
"Brother fucker"?! Kesesesesesese!!! [Laughs right in her face at that. This is his nasty side that's coming out ahh]

Right--First off--[GOD YOUR YABBERING IS LIKE PIERICING HIS MIND STOP]

OI, Shut uuuuuuppp!! 'the hell is it with girls and talking all fucking shrilly a mile a minute?! USE YOUR DAMN HEAD!!

FIRST OFF!! Little me will throw anything in your face to fucking manipulate you!! He's not a normal kid, remember that!! At that age we were forging fucking official fucking documents to get our way, what makes you think he doesn't understand that saying shit like that will make you feel bad and want to take his side, hah?! Think!! Thiiiiiiiiink!!!

[Jabbing a finger against his skull. THIIIIIIIINK. THIIIIIIIINK. Don't you want to kick his ass. His asshole side is 100%. Picking a fight at night is a bad idea.]

The only one being sensitive and hurt about this is YOU!! [Winces at that last bit...HE DIDN'T FORGET THAT BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT. IT'S A VALID POINT, BUT HE WON'T ADMIT IT AND IT'S NOT REALLY REALLY RELEVANT. HE LOVES THE LITTLE MONSTER AND HE TAKES CARE OF HER AND LISTENS TO HER.]

It's not about the kids living with me, damn it, it's about your involvement with the both of em!! You treat little me like a little lord but brush him aside when I ask you to settle a problem, and your little self--you treat her like you hate her, why the hell would she want anything to do with you, hah?!

That's what pisses me off here!! She says she hates you, you know!! If that's how you treated your West, no wonder you're alone now, you shit of a big sister!! [LOW BLOW and he knows it and then he feels a little bad, regretting saying it instantly. Turns away from her]


...Tsch, This is a fucking terrible topic, 'the hell do you want from me?! If you want to be considered differently, from here on change your actions and prove me fuckin' wrong, you hassle!
wild_kuken: (Drill Sargent Nasty)

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[personal profile] wild_kuken 2013-08-12 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Because boys are too stupid to listen if we talk to them like adults!

[You wanna be a sexist jerk she'll be one right back. Never mind that he's right about her being sensitive to it, because it hits all her buttons from childhood. But as long as he's jabbing his own head fair enough. He has a point there but just because someone knows how to manipulate people doesn't mean their own emotions turn off, by Julchen's calculations he's at least a hundred years if not more away from that time in their life. He's perfectly capable of being hurt, and her being as worried as she is about it should prove to Gil that she does care about what they think.]

You can't ask me to settle a problem we both agree is not a big deal, then get upset when I say I don't care about it. Newsflash, the root of all their fighting, besides the fact we apparently can't get along without fighting, is that little you doesn't respect women. There's not a thing I can do to change his mind because in case you haven't noticed I'm also a woman.

Thanks to the shitty society we grew up in the only one he's going to listen to is a man. So complain about me all you want, you're the failure here. They fight because you haven't taught him to be a real man. Not me. And I refuse to tell little me not to fight back because she has to deal with that shit all the time. Unlike you who was loved and adored and relatively happy for the shitty time it was, little me is gonna go home one day to Knights who openly resent her, and bosses who preach about how women are the cause of mankind's downfall.

And you still can't see why I'm aloof with her becau- [WOAH WAIT HOLD UP. Ranting cut short because seriously how fucking dare you Gilbert. She grabs for you right away, and this time you're not getting away from her fist. Fuck you for even thinking such a thing. She hopes you get a black eye.]
dererste: (You're a disappointment)

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[personal profile] dererste 2013-08-12 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't have a chance to respond before she's punching him in the face, He flinches instinctively away from the blow, her knuckles catching him square across a cheek, sending his head snapping to the side from the impact, his teeth cutting his tongue and lip in the process.

He's stunned by the pain, dazed and unthinking for a moment, before his mind rights again, wheeling, a trail of blood tickling down his lip. He's silent. There's not a peep from him as he turns his head back defiantly to glare at her. He'll bruise for sure.

He's seething. He deserved the blow but not her words in his opinion. Does she think he doesn't know? She has a point, she sure does. Little him is sexist, but he's a product of a society that raised him to be so. She said it herself. But he's a child, and even modern little boys and girls play the gender role game. She's the one blowing it out of proportion, making it a bigger deal than the children can understand. It goes deeper than him telling his little self she didn't care and framing her answer more negatively than he did himself. It goes farther than that, he's aware. It's her who's hurt most, he thinks, and he's not sure what to do about it.

He didn't teach his little self anything because he'll grow up one day, and he'll learn it himself. But he thinks it's wrong to say he should do it because he's a man, no, a woman should address the issue. If you want respect, it's your job to demand it. And she did, but a little too late to spare her from hearing his words. Toooo late to avoid this entire situation. It's unfortunate, and no, he doesn't disagree.

She has a fucking point, she has a point. Gilbert's burned and sizzled and has nothing to reply to that. No words to make hers mean less. But he's angry anyway. They went from telling parental responsibility to the injustice she suffered as a child, and to Gilbert, unfortunately, they don't tie in together. Why is she telling him this? He feels she's backlashing and displacing all her childhood frustrations on him, and he resents her for that. It's not his fault.

This fight is stupid. It's childish, bad and too personal and sinks deeper than he's comfortable even approaching. He can't fix what they're fighting about, which is whhhyyyy he didn't want to fight about it, and now there's no way to apologize for misunderstandings and acts done out of careless and thoughtless frustration. But yes, he's aware he's hypocrite. He's sorry. He's always sorry a little too late. He does and says assjack things without thinking, and now his mouth is bloody to pay up for it.

He stares at her. A coooooooold stare. Grabs her wrists to keep her from hitting him again, squeezing them painfully.]



Get off. [Quiet. A warning. He's never hit her, not because she's a girl and he's stronger than her, but because she's his family. He deserved the blow, but not a punch. Easily it could've been an grievous injury, easily he could lose his temper and return the gesture. Throwing punches makes things dangerous. And in his opinion, Family members do not use fists on each other. Family doesn't aim for each other's face. Family should know better than that.]
Edited 2013-08-12 04:51 (UTC)
wild_kuken: (I Worry Too)

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[personal profile] wild_kuken 2013-08-12 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
[She doesn't want to hit him again anyway, it felt bad as soon as she let it swing. But just like Gilbert often speaks without thinking Julchen is equally capable of acting without thinking, whether she wants to admit it or not. The difference is she's more likely to let that be a fist than a harsh word. With her free hand she reaches for her teddy, then backs away from him entirely, hugging it to her chest despite how gross he was with it earlier. She's frustrated, so frustrated because he doesn't understand and doesn't know how to make him understand.

If you want respect, it's your job to demand it. That's exactly the problem, if it were that easy they wouldn't be here. She met Teuton before him, she'd been trying almost as long as she'd been on the meme to get him to acknowledge her. Admittedly never too seriously because she well understands he's a product of his time, but she has gently reminded him that she was a Knight too, that women can fight, and other things of that nature. But the idea that she's just trying now isn't fair, she only cares now because you're asking her to care. Because his sexism is hurting a little girl who hasn't grown a thick skin to rampant sexism and misogyny like she has.

She doesn't blame him for the unfairness of their childhoods, and she doesn't want him to carry her burdens. All she wants is for him to understand the weight of what he's asking. It's unfair to say it's her responsibility to demand respect, when both demanding and even earning respect still got her a grand total of zero respect at times. It's especially unfair to call her a shitty parent, and to accuse her of wiggling out of her responsibilities for not being able to get little him to quit picking fights with little her.

Does he want to raise the Teutons as modern kids? Then man the fuck up and teach him how to respect women instead of complaining that she doesn't do it. Or does he want to let them be medieval in thought and action while providing only shelter and food? Then don't tell her she's not parenting when they fight. Because they will fight. Little her will defend her honor to death and little him will continue to be sexist until he grows up and telling her that makes her a bad parent hurts.

And it's funny, she never tried to believe pop psychology that women only discuss their problems to get empathy while men discuss problems to find solutions, but boy are they exhibiting it. She doesn't want him to fix anything, she's not asking him to fix anything. He's getting angry over nothing because she's not asking him to be a knight and slay all past misogyny with his shining sword, she's just asking him to understand.

Understand that she encourages her little self to fight back not because she's a shit parent and wants to make life miserable for him, but because the only way she can ever hope to get respect for literally centuries is through strength. Understand that she keeps her at a distance because for a little girl who grows up in a world where nothing she can do will ever be enough to make up for a lack of a penis, who only manages to be relatively happy because she clings to the ambition of being the 'biggest, strongest knight ever,' nothing will hurt her more than finding out about their future.

She's not cruel, she doesn't pick on the kids for fun. And most of all it hurts that he'd ever think that, let alone say that to her.]


I'm sorry Gil...I...shit, I just wanted you to listen. I love little me, and little you, and you. And I'll take care of any of you, us, at the drop of a hat, for however long you want. But I can't keep them from fighting anymore than I can keep us from fighting. I'm not trying to mooch, so stop treating me like a deadbeat.

[She squeezes the teddy tighter without realizing it. Maybe she's just generally more tactile than him, because now she just wants to ease the forming bruise away. But she knows better. He's gonna storm out just like last time, isn't he? He always does this to her and she wishes he'll stay and let them sort this out. Because to her family uses fists, and family hurts, but what makes family family is that they're the ones who sit through the hurt and the pain and try to at least make it worth something. Even if they only agree on something small it's better than going to bed on hurt feelings.]
dererste: (just leave me alone....)

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[personal profile] dererste 2013-08-12 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
[At lot of what he said was needling. Overblown statements to spur her into outrage and action. It wasn't his intention to wound her nor to open her old wounds, that happened inadvertently.

It was a mild criticism, he wasn't damning her entirely, though it sounded that way he knows his statements had little weight. All he wanted was a little backup, but he pushed at a button, hit a festering sore without realizing, and got a shitstorm instead. This wasn't his intention.

He wanted her to handle it. To say what she needed to say to both party, to watch them, to make sure they didn't kill each other. That's all. He never really processed the gender issue until she brought it up. He doesn't fully understand why it matters to her--they're children--and he probably never will.

It's stupid. It's a stupid conflict spurred by bad wording, frustration, and stung feelings. The children are fighting, there's no need for the adults to do so too. It's late and his head is throbbing and he can barely process what she's saying. He sits up as she gets off, his hands clenching and unclenching as he stamps down whatever it is he's feeling right now. Some mashup of different upsets and regrets. There's always an impulse to hit back, but he has a tight reign on it. They're opposites in that sense; He has better control over his fists than his words.

He's wiping and spitting blood into his shirt. Wincing at her apology because she doesn't need to give it.]


Don't--[he cuts her off, waving it all away. Tired. Settling it. There's no solving this, he realizes. It's too complex for him. She's already made her point. He gets it, there's just not a lot he can say about it. Not much he feels he can do.]

I don't want to talk about this shit anymore. Tissues. Beer. Ice. Icecream. Whatever. Something. [There's still a coldness in his voice, but at least he's not bolting.]
wild_kuken: (Sidelong Depression)

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[personal profile] wild_kuken 2013-08-12 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
[That's the problem with loose words over loose fists, much as she tries to hide it Julchen is an academic and she'll chew over every meaning of words trying to get the best one out of them. Clearly when it comes to him she over-processes, but it's just who she is.

She's happy to back him up, but she thinks he lets his modern sentiments get a hold of him on this issue. They're children by every standard but their own- childhood as a concept never existed in their time and Julchen isn't entirely against treating them like adults. If her little self isn't shielded from the gender issue by virtue of looking like an eight year old human then it's hard to justify not bringing it up in her mind.

But she's tired too. Tired of all of it really but mostly just tired of fighting with him. Naturally they're similar in a magnitude of ways but sometimes it feels like they're different in all the wrong ways. All the perfect ways to make them fight. A fist is more satisfying than cold words, at least if he hit her he'd work out some tension and it'd all be temporary to her. But if a cold order for food is what keeps him from leaving her alone with her thoughts then she'll take it.]


Okay. Be right back.

[Even as awesomely Germanic as she is, it's too early for beer. But she does return quickly with tissues, an icepack, and a carton of ice cream with two spoons. Handing the carton to him, she starts dabbing at blood with the tissues and pressing the ice pack to his face without asking. If you won't accept her apology at least let her play nurse.]
dererste: (Sighhh)

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[personal profile] dererste 2013-08-12 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
[REMIND HIM TO SAY NOTHING TO HER ABOUT ANYTHING INVOLVING HER EVER AGAIN.

That's how he feels right now. But she's right, there's a part of him that wants to give them a chance at a normal childhood. It's hard to let that go and approach them otherwise.

He's quiet when she returns. Quiet when she hands him the carton. And quiet when she fussing over him. He in honesty doesn't want her near him, let alone touching him. But he allows it, not wanting to wake up with this problem in the morning.

He's lost in his thoughts, barely feeling anything. She's made him feel bad. Maybe a part of him didn't really process the enormity of what it was like for her as a child to be the wrong gender in the worst possible place. For her little self, the existence of his self, must be a giant slap in the face. His little self is a bully, he can't deny it, especially at the age where children naturally love to pick on weakness.


He GROAAANS again, suddenly, gently peeling the icepack from her.]



You--Don't worry about this either--It--I---[Stumbling over his words now, grasping at some sort of an apology on the tip of his tongue]

I-It's my fault anyway. I shouldn't have brought up Monika. Or So...even. We're even.
wild_kuken: (Whistful Gazing)

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[personal profile] wild_kuken 2013-08-12 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
[She's fine with silence, just fussing and letting him think. If it feels awkward to her she doesn't indicate it. If she knew what he was thinking she'd be glad for it, that's all she wanted him to realize. He knows she'll admit her little self is a violent monster too without hesitation, but to them this issue goes beyond temper problems.

But she doesn't want him to feel bad about it. And she almost starts to fuss when he groans but his words cut her off.]


Thanks.

[She grabs the carton back, opening it and taking the first bite before offering it back to him. It's not that she wanted to steal from him, but anything more than a quiet acceptance of his apology and she'd start crying about how much she misses her sister. All her tough guy bravado goes out the window when Monika is involved.]
dererste: (g-geh)

//passes out <#33

[personal profile] dererste 2013-08-12 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
Don't say "thanks" just yet either. Keh. I'll be throwing both our little selves at Mutter or Vater's door for a while, thank me then. [Flops back onto her bed, sleepy and tired and sore.]


No icecream, I bit my tongue, it'll just freakin' hurt. I wanted a beer, stingy. [waves it away crawling under her sheets]

Let me crash in your bed with you tonight. I'll listen to your Knight stories or whatever until we pass out or something... [he's offering to hear about her experience, he hasn't done that before. He's trying.]
wild_kuken: (Big Sister Watching Over You)

♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

[personal profile] wild_kuken 2013-08-12 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Good, you deserve a vacation. [Means that sincerely, she doesn't know how you handle them half the time.]

[Takes another bite then stashes it somewhere. She might have melted ice cream on her hands in the morning but whatever. Twin cuddling takes priority.]

Alright. And in a one time little brother special I won't make you work out with me in the morning.

[She brings the blankets up over them with a little smile, probably for the first time in her life talking about her childhood without embellishment. It's not all different and depressing, and maybe if he stays awake long enough he'll find out the mystery of her scar.]