aphanon_meme ([personal profile] aphanon_meme) wrote2017-12-31 06:04 pm

part 367 bears and wolves oh my

YOU DID IT, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. Well, it's been a year. I hope it was a good one for you--and that 2018 is even better! And maybe we'll finally get that fansub of even one of the musicals... just maybe.

Enjoy part 367!

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
https://discoursecatharsis.tumblr.com/post/172674024587/a-big-callout

uhhh holy fucking shit??

(tw for suicide concerning a different fandom, but still)

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
I was trying to write something different, but screw it.

I straight up hate fandom.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I know. I think I hate it now too.

Just. Fuck. How did it come to this? a 12 year old girl committing suicide? And they were celebrating it?!

And the post only has 1k notes??

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
The thing that makes me so angry is that nowadays there are a lot of people who are ok with things like this.

There are a lot of people who might feel bad that the kid was twelve, but would've thought it was deserved to dox them if they were twenty.

Or feel bad because the kid's great fandom sin apparently was shipping an age difference between adult characters, but would be ok with doxxing someone for shipping something more extreme, like teacher/student.

There are many, many people in fandom with the earnest belief that it is ok and deserved to punish someone in real life, for the terrible crime of liking something that you find upsetting in fiction.

Not everyone is like this. But too many are. Enough are that the tipping point has long passed. If you're active in fandom today, you've inevitably brushed against at least some people with this mindset. Maybe you even think they are your friends or fans. For now. While you're still obeying the rules.

Fandom has become its own dystopis. Save the fictional people, destroy real life people.

I stopped posting content about a year ago, after I encountered a doxxing story that hit too close to home. There are plenty of such stories out there, though this particular one is the most heinous I've ever read considering the age of the victim and that they committed suicide. At around 12-13 I was shipping and writing way more hardcore ~problematic~ stuff than what she was doing. I cannot imagine how I would have felt or what I might have done if somebody had seen fit to hack me, violate my privacy, harass me, and publicly humiliate me. I hope that one poster was not just bluffing when they mentioned the police. This is, in its own way, child abuse and should be prosecuted. And it's horrifying how the bullies - who were so fucking righteous about a goddamn stupid petty worthless little ship war that they deliberately and viciously targeted this fan they didn't like - these pillars of morality have not a word to say of even being sorry about causing the death of a twelve year old. All they're saying is excuses and reasons it's not really their fault and insinuating they're self harming so we should pity them. Good god! The irony! Someone whose deliberate and malicious actions led to the death of a child - and what, this person shouldn't be harmed? I hope they get sued. I hope there's some kind of deity somewhere aiming a lightning bolt. I hope there's an anvil from the sky.

da

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
https://discoursecatharsis.tumblr.com/post/172676908722/

ok so it's a bit confusing but the 12 year old may have been someone else but they were still doxxed (or cyberbullying) and a kid still died somehow??

either way if a kid was involved this is so awful

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"Fandom has become its own dystopis. Save the fictional people, destroy real life people." Woooow. That's it, right there, and it's so horrifying that they don't see this is the actual motto they espouse.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of confused as to what happened exactly but still... yikes.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
what the FUCK

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
Had a bit of trouble figuring out what was happening, but this is god awful.

I hope these people will one day realize the gravity of what they did. I like the screenshot where it seems like one of them is _this_ close to the epiphany that what they're doing is actually cyberbullying, and the exact shit that had been done to them.

Antis are so stuck up their own ass that they don't even recognise bullying as long as it's them that do it, and as long as it's for "their cause". It's horrifying that they thought it could be justified for any reason at all. From the first screens it seems a lot of them are even 18/early 20s? I should stop being shocked seeing how some teens who grew up on tumblr rhetoric have turned out as adults, but it disturbs me everytime.

I hope they'll understand that they collectively killed a 12 year old girl over some fictional characters. I hope that haunts them as they grow older. Even if the police can't act on something like this, I hope they'll lie in bed when they're 30, 40, still thinking about how they killed a little girl by bullying them to death, and that they were no different from whoever made fun of them in high school, no matter how much more 'marginalized' they were than the girl that died.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't think they will feel remorse. looking at their blogs, they're denying culpability and some of them are even joking about it all "me and my friends on our way to discord right now to ruin someone's life! huehue" with gifs

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
going through some of the involved blogs

they're saying they didn't harass anyone, and there's no proof anything actually happened and "if someone did actually die because someone said racism is bad or a ship is nasty, then that’s their business, and if I was them I would feel pretty bummed that my friends are using my death to justify their gross ships anyway"

http://2ds-melodica.tumblr.com/post/172688980787/nrgrandromantic-ive-been-ignoring-this-whole

People seem to think this is about shipping drama? When in actuality it was about racism and transphobia and the rampant justification of child grooming incest and abuse that this fandom loves so much. If all those things sound like your ship then :/ that sounds like a you problem.

this... reads like they wouldn't care at all if they did drive someone to do something as a result of their words, just because they ship what they ship.

Btw I won’t link the callout because a lot of the people reblogging it ae MAPS and literal Pedophiles that follow the people who made it and GOD I will not be touching that.

what the fuck is a map

also anyone who dislikes antis is a Literal Pedophile i guess, what else is new

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
http://egozaptor.tumblr.com/post/172691891991/imagine-bothering-a-minor-at-like-10-am-and

imagine bothering a minor at like 10 am and telling them they caused someone to commit suicide because u have nothing better to do

oh now they're the persecuted ones...and it's just because people have nothing better to do, not that they're pissed that people can treat another person that way over fictional shit?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Christ

What a piece of shit

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
/DA

went digging into the drama a little and paraphrasing
https://mintymudz.tumblr.com/post/172679505341/nrgrandromantic-mintymudz
>A: says "nigga shut the fuck up"
>B: wow that helps your argument
>A: DID YOU JUST REBLOG A POST THAT CONTAINS THE NWORD
>B: What, YOU were the one who said it??? I reblogged in response.
>A: yeah, you keep reblogging a post with the nword in you racist piece of shit. Just call me a nigger and go."

what next level discourse is even happening here? Is this some kinda fandom version of entrapment? what is going on

(Anonymous) 2018-04-08 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
fucking ridiculous, but this is their tactic, as mentioned by the person who shared all the screenshots. they said "i can turn this around on her" (meaning the one person they were doxxing) and they also took that person's url after it was deleted, to have control over that person's image and possibly manipulate it. so this is another case of them doing that, only this time it's out there for everyone to see.

also, the way their discord group talked about race was pretty weird. introductions included their race but it'd be like "hi i'm so-and-so, insert age, insert sexual orientation and i'm a honkey (white)" (why not just say "white" in the first place if you're going to add it anyway) or "i'm a cracker". like sharing their race in a derogatory way is their way of saying "and i'm not a racist! see, you can tell because i used that word." as if labelling themselves accomplishes anything compared to you know, your words and actions. they feel like it's a pat on the back and a get out of jail free card if they find themselves in a sticky situation later, just like they're pulling out "um but i'm lgbt and a self-harmer so you should feel ashamed of yourselves for calling me out like this and causing me distress" now.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
it's a matter of time until it happens in osomatsu or voltron fandoms, with the way the antis there roll just as bad. it's disgusting.

da

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
honestly, i'm amazed it hadn't happened there yet, either. SU fandom came close but the girl who attempted survived, thank god. she still got shit from antis even now though, which is just disgusting knowing what happened.

i want to say i'm amazed it was gorillaz fandom, but somehow i'm not. band fandoms and real people slash tend to have some of the worst antis (and homophobes) and iirc the fandom always had a huge amount of them. if it was going to happen to any real people based fandom, considering gorillaz uses animated characters and has ships... i'm not as surprised as i should be.