aphanon_meme | part 367 bears and wolves oh my

part 367 bears and wolves oh my

YOU DID IT, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. Well, it's been a year. I hope it was a good one for you--and that 2018 is even better! And maybe we'll finally get that fansub of even one of the musicals... just maybe.

Enjoy part 367!

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The whole She-Ra debacle is starting to make me dislike both sides of the argument.

what debacle?

There are people saying the new She-Ra netflix cartoon looks like a dude, CalArts style sucks and lesbians are pushing their agenda.

Then there's the other side saying boo hoo men are whining that cartoons aren't making their dicks hard.

/chinhands

/lays down

i feel like people who praise the old art of stuff like she-ra, thundercats, have nostalgia glasses on and only remember the brief instances when that cheaptastic animation actually stayed on-model.

...also they must be at least slightly blind, because those character designs were tacky as hell but i guess in context all 80s/90s fashion was tacky as hell so... sure. i guess she-ra is slightly less eye-bleedingly fug as lion-o who mostly resembles a mutant troll doll on steroids but eh.

THAT SAID i also think it's unreasonable that people jump to "oh you hate the currently on trend animation/character design styles THAT MUST MEAN YOU'RE A SEXIST PIG" because while i am sure SOME of the backlash people are that and just wanna see she-ra's ass, it's sure not everyone. and it's natural and legitimate that people will like the original art style of pretty much anything and will prefer it over variants.

someday, there's going to be some kind of hyper realistic cg reboot of steven universe and it'll be us as the crusty old fans bitching about it, probably under the guise of a vaguely feminist argument but really it boils down to the age-old hating change and hating the unpleasant realization that we're no longer in the generation that leads aesthetic trends.

THANK YOU!!

This is exactly what I feel as well. I admit, I'm one of those people who have nostalgia glasses on, especially since I have very fond memories of the original She-Ra. This new design just threw me for such a loop that I'm like... well, she DOES kinda look like a little boy. But at the same time, I'm waiting to see how the writers handle the story, cause that's what's really gonna make or break this, I think.

I've been having a lot of nostalgia glasses moments lately, lol. I hated the new MLP Friendship Is Magic style when it first premiered cause I'm like what are these ugly large-eyed cat-horses?? They are not ponies! And when I first saw the new Voltron, I was like Katie?? KATIE??? NO, he is DARRELL, thank you!

yeah, i mean i personally like that she looks more muscular and boyish but that IS a drastic change of some essential traits of the character - originally a voluptuous bombshell.

i loved batman as a kid. if batman got a reboot where suddenly he looked a lot more feminine, or in some other sense not a conventionally attractive man, i'd be kind of pissed - and that's certainly not because i have anything against men being feminine, or against unconventional looking men being main characters or whatever. if burger king switched to pizza everyone'd be a bit wtf man even though pizza's good too.

I completely agree, I watched a video review yesterday where this dude was very wtf at the new She-Ra design and apparently he got bombarded with so much hate that he made another video today being even more wtf. And tbh, I kinda can see his point. There definitely are people out there who didn't care about the She-Ra cartoon until they saw MEN criticizing the design, then they're all on board like WE LOVE THIS NEW SHE-RA BOO HOO YOU CAN'T FAP CAUSE SHE HAS NO BOOBIES just because a few guys spoke up with Opinions.

This kind of stuff really drives up my anxiety sometimes cause I have a lot of LGBTQ+ friends and I'm always trying to be supportive, but sometimes the community can be such an echo chamber to the point where if I express that I don't like something like the new She-Ra because of her design, I'll also get a bunch of messages telling me how there's nothing wrong with androgynous figures, it's nice for once to not have a ridiculous waist to hip ratio, what's wrong with not looking like a Barbie, etc etc etc...

this is my big beef with fandom culture and interpretation/criticism of media these days; nothing can be a matter of taste, everything becomes a stand for a moral/ethical/political issue and if you like A it makes you immediately at war with B.

also i am very over this "if it makes some man annoyed, it's a victory for feminism and if we're feminists we HAVE TO LOVE IT!" kind of attitude - again, especially in the fandom sphere, which i think carried over from gamergate initially. it's the fraternal twin of the anti-kink, anti-shipping bs; only instead of "if you dare like this you're problematic" in this case it's "if you dare dislike this you're problematic" when in most cases it really is just a matter of taste and not some kind of declaration on How All Women Should Be.

i'm hoping all this crap boils down to growing pains and eventually, one day, there'll be enough variety of female characters and minority characters in popular media that the perceived stakes will be lowered and we won't have to have a shitfit over the minutia of any one particular character's traits. fact is, it's impossible to have a she-ra or a thundercats or a star wars that is EVERYONE's preferred she-ra or thundercats or star wars, or to "validate" (god i'm starting to hate that word almost as much as "problematic") EVERY person with representation in one particular character. some little girls are going to relate to 2018 she-ra more than they would have with original she-ra. and for some other little girls, it'll be the other way around. it's ok.

heck, some fanboys are going to be more turned on by flat muscular 2018 she-ra than original busty she-ra and they are going to fap to her and that is ok too. not to mention everybody getting up in arms about this seems to forget fangirls are just as thirsty about attractive fictional male characters. and also that some lesbian/bi girls probably also fapped to original she-ra and are more attracted to those traditionally sexy feminine proportions.

the irritating bit is the particular guys who are like "no fanservice for my particular tastes = show is evil sjw garbage" but i don't see much of this attitude at all - just a lot of people immediately reading any negative opinion as being this.

You took the words out of my mouth in a more eloquent manner than I ever could. The mob mentality of this has become frightening, to the point where guys with actual legit critiques are drowned out by the roar of feminists proclaiming they just dislike it cause no fan service. I personally can't see when the variety will be enough to calm all the shitfits. There will always be complaining how there isn't enough this or that, or general hate thrown towards anything that isn't seen as diverse enough.

There's also a lot of double standards out there too. Like, a few people I follow were reblogging a bunch of hate towards men who disliked the She-Ra design with things like "this isn't for you" followed up by how this She-Ra is a younger girl created for children and to gtfo with all the pedo fantasies. But then the same people turn around and state how this She-Ra is totally their type and please slay me with your sword, etc etc etc. Aren't you just doing the exact same thing you're hating on men for doing? Is it okay for you to do it cause the target of your lust isn't a conventional blond bombshell?

I just think it's dumb to have arguments about who faps to what. Cause in the end, if it exists, someone will fap to it. Who even cares? Let people have their masturbatory fantasies in peace, it's not hurting anyone. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore, it's late and these people all give me a headache, lol

i agree, it's sad. and also kind of funny, in the sense that this kind of rigid hivemind of righteousness gives fuel to the true mra types, who in turn make radicalized progressive fandom more hysterical, seeing the chauvinist patriarchal bogeyman in everyone and mistaking common human nature.

Aren't you just doing the exact same thing you're hating on men for doing?

^THIS, so much. the vast majority of male AND female viewers DO get crushes on their fictional favs (of whatever gender/shape/color), DO - oh dearie me - ~sexualize~ and ~objectify~ them in their imaginations or in their fanart/fanfic, that's just a human thing not a specifically male thing or a somehow scary predatory thing. it's normal. and whoever it's "for" is irrelevant.

ah well. sigh, sigh, /old fogey fandom grandma brofist

i just stay out of fandom these days. it used to enhance the enjoyment of the original to check out the fandom/fanon, but nowadays it mostly annoys me and in a couple cases ruins the original for me. i'm only willing to hang on pixiv and instagram for fanart.

/tired old brofist. I honestly haven't been involved in a fandom since Gravity Falls and when the whole BillDip wank exploded. Now I'm tentatively dipping my toes into a super small fandom in hopes these people are actually sane.

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